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[positiveContact]

I'd like to knock out something new and use up some hops up.  10 gallon batch here.

 

grain bill:

20.0 lbs US 2-row pale

1.5 lbs carapils

0.5 lbs C120

 

mash at 152F

 

hops:

1.5 oz chinook (60 mins)

1.0 oz willy (10 mins)

1.5 oz cent (0 mins)

1.0 oz chinook (whirlpool)

 

ferment on US-05 (probably 2 packets)

 

dry hop if/as needed.

 

what do you guys think?

 

 

[johnpreuss]

What do you have left for hops?  I'd be dryhopping and hitting it heavier late.  Your late additions are light for a 5 gallon IMHO. 

 

I like the grain bill.  I know there are going to be those here who will say OMG there's 2 lbs of crystal in there but I like my IPAs to have some body.

[neddles]

What do you have left for hops?  I'd be dryhopping and hitting it heavier late.  Your late additions are light for a 5 gallon IMHO. 

 

I like the grain bill.  I know there are going to be those here who will say OMG there's 2 lbs of crystal in there but I like my IPAs to have some body.

I agree. I like the grain bill and I would prefer much more hops, late and dry. For me, dry hops in an IPA are pretty much required. What kind of OG are you shooting for?

[positiveContact]

i could def up the chinook.  I could also use cascade, palisade, styrian goldings, EKG, hallertau, magnum, czech saaz.  that's what i've got.

 

i based the amounts on denny's ripa which only has 3 oz of hops towards the end of the boil.  this is a much lower gravity (1.055) so I wasn't sure how far to go.

 

srm is about 7-8.

 

ibu is about 34 as it currently stands.

 

also - i don't really count carapils as a real crystal.  it doesn't really bring crystal flavor to the table.

Edited by TheGuv, 04 November 2013 - 04:29 AM.

[HVB]

More hops, at least for my tastes.  I would go with a much bigger whirlpool charge and i would use about 4-6 ounces of dry-hops in that beer.  Just for reference, the Mosaic APA that I gave you have 34g for the whirlpool and 56g for the dryhop, there were also 90,15 and 10 minute additions.  I just do not think 1oz in the whirlpool is going to do that much. 

[matt6150]

Yeah more hops for sure. I think I would move your cents to whirlpool and also whatever cascades you have to whirlpool as well. And probably up your chinook 60min a little.

[positiveContact]

More hops, at least for my tastes.  I would go with a much bigger whirlpool charge and i would use about 4-6 ounces of dry-hops in that beer.  Just for reference, the Mosaic APA that I gave you have 34g for the whirlpool and 56g for the dryhop, there were also 90,15 and 10 minute additions.  I just do not think 1oz in the whirlpool is going to do that much. 

 

so which hops would you increase/add?  I'm not familiar with the use of chinook enough to know at what point the beer would be all piney.

 

I don't usually make IPAs of this gravity (they are usually more like 1.065+) so I was unsure what kind of hopping a wort like this could take.

 

i have a lot of homegrown cascade that is of kind unknown quality and a year old.  i'd have no problem throwing a lot of it at this beer if i knew it wouldn't make it super grassy or anything.

[positiveContact]

some edits based on suggestions.

 

grain bill:

20.0 lbs US 2-row pale

1.5 lbs carapils

0.5 lbs C120

 

mash at 152F

 

hops:

1.75 oz chinook (60 mins)

1.0 oz willy (10 mins)

1.0 oz palisade (5 mins)

1.0 oz cent (whirlpool)

1.0 oz cascade (whirlpool)

1.0 oz chinook (whirlpool)

 

ferment on US-05 (probably 2 packets)

 

dry hop if/as needed, probably with chinook, 1.5-2.0 oz per 5 gallon keg (so 3-4 oz total).

[HVB]

What do you have available for hops?

[positiveContact]

What do you have available for hops?

 

8 oz of chinook

some cents but I'm trying to save some of those for an amber this winter

a lot of homegrown cascades, no shortage or desire to keep these around longer, but as I said of uknown quality

probably 4 oz of willy

8 oz of palisade

 

other options: hallertau, EKG, styrian goldings, czech saaz, magnum

[positiveContact]

i've got a little bit of time to figure this out.  i'm hoping for a week of thanksgiving brew.

[HVB]

You list Cents at 0 and Chinook at whirlpool. What is your plan?  Maybe I am doing it wrong but I assume my 0 and whirlpool are the same.

[matt6150]

You list Cents at 0 and Chinook at whirlpool. What is your plan?  Maybe I am doing it wrong but I assume my 0 and whirlpool are the same.

It looks like he has corrected this in the second recipe he posted.

 

TheGuv, I think I would double your 10 and 5 min additions of the willy and palisades and make them 2oz each. I think being 10gal that sounds closer to a IPA. Otherwise I would brew that and definitely dry hop.

[positiveContact]

You list Cents at 0 and Chinook at whirlpool. What is your plan?  Maybe I am doing it wrong but I assume my 0 and whirlpool are the same.

 

i actually do count them as different.  zero would be right when i turn the burners off and start the chiller up.  whirlpool would be chilling a little bit (175F maybe?) and then putting hops in and pausing for a little bit to allow them to do their thing at that temperature.

[positiveContact]

It looks like he has corrected this in the second recipe he posted.

 

TheGuv, I think I would double your 10 and 5 min additions of the willy and palisades and make them 2oz each. I think being 10gal that sounds closer to a IPA. Otherwise I would brew that and definitely dry hop.

 

damn!  this seems like a lot of hops!  maybe I don't know IPAs.

[MtnBrewer]

damn!  this seems like a lot of hops!  maybe I don't know IPAs.

 

The Union Jack IPA I made yesterday has 21 oz. of hops (including dry hops).

[positiveContact]

The Union Jack IPA I made yesterday has 21 oz. of hops (including dry hops).

 

for how many gallons?

[HVB]

The Union Jack IPA I made yesterday has 21 oz. of hops (including dry hops).

what was that .. 5g

Back to the OP, I know Pliny is a double IPA(recipe added for reference) but it is coming in around 12.5 ounces for 5 gallons.  I have found with the late additions you need a lot more to get out of them what I want.  I find myself at 5-6oz for and APA and  I know that is why some have gone away from late additions and back to a more traditional 60-20-10-DH

 

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[MtnBrewer]

for how many gallons?

11

[positiveContact]

I guess I'll use some more hops!  should I be afraid of too much palisade or willy here?  I could up them to 2 oz each I'm guessing.