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#141 neddles

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 07:29 AM

Make a Red Czech Lager. 100% red x, mash low, toss in some Saaz with a fair amount of late hopping. Prost!

I have often thought of trying that with 100% vienna malt to about 1.044-1.048 or so. Why not try it with Red-X, right?

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 07:29 AM

This is 100% RedX, correct?Posted Image

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 07:29 AM

Blktre, what was the OG of the saison?

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 07:45 AM

This is 100% RedX, correct? 

 

Yes.

 

Blktre, what was the OG of the saison?

 

OG 1.050 FG 1.004-6

 

I also remember discussions about OG and how it could effect the color where 1.050 could be the sweet spot. 



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 07:52 AM

I'm thinking of a 100% RedX grain bill to 1.050 or so. Then bitter with Magnum and add some late German hops like Hallertau, Hallertau Select, Perle, etc. and then ferment with 2206 Bavarian. IBUs to maybe 35-40. Mash around 150-151°. I have some other beers I want to make with the 2206 so I'm leaning that way. That Saison looks really nice color an clarity-wise.

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 08:03 AM

I'm thinking of a 100% RedX grain bill to 1.050 or so. Then bitter with Magnum and add some late German hops like Hallertau, Hallertau Select, Perle, etc. and then ferment with 2206 Bavarian. IBUs to maybe 35-40. Mash around 150-151°. I have some other beers I want to make with the 2206 so I'm leaning that way. That Saison looks really nice color an clarity-wise.

 

That Red Saison is 100% Red X, Magnum @60 then a nice hit of Motueka @20. Your plan sounds tasty. 



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 08:56 AM

I could see that. But I think I only have an ounce of Saaz in the house. I have a bunch of Hallertau, some Tettnanger and some other possibilities though. Also, when you say "mash low", what are you thinking... 150°?

148/150 It'll have a nice malty flavor from red x but I'd like it dry.



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:00 AM

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100% Red X Alt



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:16 AM

Purty!  :frank:



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:19 AM

On your Alt, how did the malt and hops come through compared to a more classic grist for the style?



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:22 AM

Yes.

 

what malt would say red-x is similar to?  pilsen? Vienna?  munich?  something else?



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:23 AM

what malt would say red-x is similar to?  pilsen? Vienna?  munich?  something else?

Mentioned earlier that it seemed like a cross between Munich and Vienna. Would that be Munich 10 (dark) or Munich 6 (light)? Seems like the dark stuff based on color.

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:25 AM

Hopping was the same. I like to kick up the ibu's into the mid 40's.  

 

Red X is full malty/bready/toasty. In the past I've used some portion of Munich and it can give a grapey flavor I don't enjoy.



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:30 AM

what malt would say red-x is similar to?  pilsen? Vienna?  munich?  something else?

 

I only use Vienna in small quantities for certain styles while Munich I have used large percentages. I think its more like Munich to me. JMcG cracked a funny saying its so similar why would anyone spend the extra money on the Red X and just use Munich instead? I get what he is saying but Munich alone will not give you this color so its a wash for me. I'm handling Red X twofold, 1) As a base malt 2) as a character malt. Even tho that can be held true for Munich as well I still stand by the color.

 

Will somebody brew a Dopplebock for me with 100% Red X and report back please?   :)


Edited by BlKtRe, 08 October 2014 - 09:32 AM.


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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:33 AM

I may need to add a few sacks to my next grain order.

 

Red X To Brew List:

 

Amber Czech Lager

DoppelBock

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:36 AM

I'm brewing up another Red X beer today...Fresh X

 

11# Red X

1# Flaked Barley

 

mash 152F

 

As many pounds of fresh picked backyard hops as I can fit in a grocery bag @ flame out

 

S-05

Somehow this batch got away from me. I wasn't paying attention and ended up with about 4 gallons of 1.075 wort with 2# fresh hops added at 0 for a 30 minute whirlpool. Should be interesting.



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 10:04 AM

Yes.OG 1.050 FG 1.004-6I also remember discussions about OG and how it could effect the color where 1.050 could be the sweet spot.

Yeah I will have to shoot for 1.050 next time. I have a sack of this stuff to burn through.

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 10:24 AM

I only use Vienna in small quantities for certain styles while Munich I have used large percentages. I think its more like Munich to me. JMcG cracked a funny saying its so similar why would anyone spend the extra money on the Red X and just use Munich instead? I get what he is saying but Munich alone will not give you this color so its a wash for me. I'm handling Red X twofold, 1) As a base malt 2) as a character malt. Even tho that can be held true for Munich as well I still stand by the color.

 

Will somebody brew a Dopplebock for me with 100% Red X and report back please?   :)

Red X is more expensive than Munich for you?  Same price for me.

Also, It is similar to Munich, but it is its own beast.  



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 10:26 AM

Personally, I don't see buying an entire sack of this stuff unless the character was REALLY wowing me. My LHBS sells Vienna and Munich (and many other ingredients) in 5-lb bags so I might get 1 or 2 bags and use them over the course of a couple batches, etc. I typically only get pilsner malt and pale ale malt in sacks. But I will say... I'm looking very forward to seeing how the RedX beer comes out.

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 11:55 AM

I buy it by the sak because we have an account at MCM and so we get some deals on pallets. We are on our 6th pallet this year.




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