Edited by JKoravos, 11 May 2009 - 08:49 PM.
Pressure Canning Starter Wort
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 08:46 PM
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 09:20 PM
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 04:29 AM
Edited by JKoravos, 12 May 2009 - 04:35 AM.
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 04:29 AM
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 04:40 AM
That's exactly what I was planning to do until a read a tutorial (Maltose Falcons, I think?) describing the method above. My thinking was that it would be tough to dissolve the DME in hot tap water. In retrospect, I don't know what made me think that.Very nice write-up. The first time I did it I got a bit pot and boiled the DME and water then put it in the canning jars. How stupid and so much extra work. This reminds me I need to fire up the canner.
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 05:13 AM
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 07:56 AM
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 06:52 PM
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Posted 12 May 2009 - 10:56 PM
Mine is like the top picture https://www.caselots...m/strainers.htm the handle is long enough I can use it to skim break off a hot pot of brew, also use it for cooking. The mesh size keeps most of the break out but not all. The break will not hurt the starter that I know of. I just keep it out to make it easier to tell how the yeast is growing. Not sure of the mesh size but it is small enough flour barely goes through it.Yeah, I'm still contemplating how I want to deal with the break. The easy way is obviously to just pour off of it. I've also been thinking about putting together a setup using a coffee filter to strain out the particulate. I have a some pretty fine mesh screen I could grab from work, but I'm not sure it's fine enough. How fine is your mesh screen?I just did a quick google search and found that a coffee filter has a 20 micron filter rating, FWIW.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:02 AM
- [*]Sanitize the erlynmyer flask.[*]Sanitize stir bar.[*]Dump in yeast.[*]Dump in wort.[*]Sanitize airlock.[*]Place on stirplate?[/list]
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:39 AM
Yeah, I'm not terribly worried about transferring the break over. Up until now, when I've made my starters I didn't even attempt to separate the break. I'd just cool it down and dump everything in. Now that I'm changing my process, I'm thinking ways to improve it.Mine is like the top picture https://www.caselots...m/strainers.htm the handle is long enough I can use it to skim break off a hot pot of brew, also use it for cooking. The mesh size keeps most of the break out but not all. The break will not hurt the starter that I know of. I just keep it out to make it easier to tell how the yeast is growing. Not sure of the mesh size but it is small enough flour barely goes through it.
That's about it, minus the airlock, plus a funnel. I just use a piece of foil over the top of the flask. I'll probably need to sanitize a funnel as well. I could pour straight from the mason jar to the flask, but I'm pretty sure I'd make a mess 9 out of 10 times doing that.JK,So when it's time to make the starters, do you just:
[*]Sanitize the erlynmyer flask.[*]Sanitize stir bar.[*]Dump in yeast.[*]Dump in wort.[*]Sanitize airlock.[*]Place on stirplate?[/list]
Edited by JKoravos, 13 May 2009 - 05:58 AM.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:31 AM
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 07:44 AM
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 03:41 PM
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:08 PM
He said above the just used DME cause he had some but plans to use a mash in the future. He was probably just antsy to try out canning.All I'm saying is that you can have the same convenience at a fraction of the cost. I like quality, convinence, and am a cheap bastard to boot
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 05:32 PM
yeah, you could say that. :sarcasm:DME is expensive, but how am I going to start my next batch without a starter!He was probably just antsy to try out canning.
Well, up until this point I always used DME to make one off starters. There's no way I'm going to do a mash for one starter. So, in a way I just used the same materials as usual, but increased my convenience using the final product. Next time around I'll do a mash.I choose convenience over cost for many things.Nice write up, but to me it defeats the cheap ass brewing I have come to love. Cheap in that I can get awaywith the same product cheaper. Using DME to can wort? I can see canning leftover wort or doing a small mashto get wort, but ain't DME awefull expensive?I mean, it is already in a form that makes making a starter very easy and unless you are strapped for time to make one,then doing a starter the same night only takes a little while if using DME.I know it is convenient to have everything ready at a moments notice, and if you choose to have convinence over costthen, I will never sway you.All I'm saying is that you can have the same convenience at a fraction of the cost. I like quality, convinence, and am a cheap bastard to boot
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 05:55 AM
- [*]canning method[*]pull 2 gal of wort from tun=no problem[*]boil till 1.040= use 7gal Al brewpot for this[*]pour into 8 mason jars[*]place in pressure cooker[*]put lids on[*]boil a gallon of water to cover bottom of cooker[*]lug inside to stove[*]cook for 15 minutes while putting gear away[*]kill heat[*]sit around and wait (got that part nailed)[*]crack open cooker[*]let whole mess come to room temp[*]store mason jars, enough for two brews[*] Sanitize the erlynmyer flask.[*]Sanitize stir bar.[*] Dump in yeast.[*] Dump in mason jars[*] Sanitize airlock.[*] Place on stirplate[/list]vs.
- [*]current method[*]tare scale[*]add 16 oz DME[*]fill to 4l mark[*]throw in stirbar, gently[*]add yeast nutrient[*]get to boil[*]boil for 15 min[*]pull from heat to cool[*]water bath for 30 minutes[*]dump in yeast[*] Sanitize airlock.[*] Place on stirplate[/list]Still thinking about this
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 06:58 AM
Edited by JKoravos, 14 May 2009 - 06:59 AM.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 10:35 AM
I'm guessing:Your "typical" batch 1.050 - 1.055 OGMy "typical" batch 1.075 - 1.080 OGUnless you know some secret sparge handshake...In which case I want to know how you do that.If you're still getting 1.030 runnings after you hit your volume, that would be ideal for boiling down and canning. That's pretty much like free starters. On a typical batch I'm getting near 1.010 by the end of the sparge.
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 10:39 AM
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